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Stray
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Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 1844 Location: Leeds |
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Brit tac 7th of feb |
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Stick your thoughs here, mine will probably come in tomorrow.
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| Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:47 pm |
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Joshua Rose
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Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 439 Location: Loxley, Sheffield |
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Bl**din' 'ell...
...wish I'd realised you were there today, could've dropped your M15 off. 
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| Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:28 pm |
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Spunky

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 90 Location: Rotherham, UK. |
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Despite being ill, it was amaaaaaaaaaaazing!
I was set on fire, i ploughed my fields and then the British came and killed me!
I absolutely hated the free for all. I sat about waiting for it to end, literally.
Rest of the day was great and particularly the roleplaying one. I don't do airsoft for getting kills etc,i do i to play army men. Arresting people, patting them down, securing prisoners, acting our innocent afgani villages etc. Heaven.
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| Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:48 am |
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Stray
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Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 1844 Location: Leeds |
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I wasn't enjoying the free for all at the start until me and spunky started our ninja duel in the dark then it got bitching!
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| Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:50 pm |
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Stray
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Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 1844 Location: Leeds |
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To Van, brit tac marshals, staff etc etc when you get around to reading this just be ready for quite alot of negative in this post. This is basically because there probably a bit of critisium you need to hear from your players rather than "10/10" in some of the reviews on your forums. When i get around to posting on your forums will be more of positive stuff rather than all this negativity.
First off let me just point out that team work wise yellows were shit. We didn't talk enough and work together enough as a full side. Lot of fairly talented players but unfortunatly we were in the face of a side that seemed to be pretty much working together as practically a full group. And made good use of pyro, which i just can't get that excited by :-p . So first off i think yellows would have lost alot on sunday without any other factors.
However they were other factors.
Practically the whole of the yellow team had their doubts about the group that included the guy in the..
Even Evansy on the reds confirm these doubts.
My first problem with him was after he hid behind a door we worked out a way to take him out which was Tom to run out and draw fire while i came around the corner which worked and i got him with a moscart to the chest from admitedly point blank range. To which he started to complain about overkill. Which to me is just part of the game you have to accept at CQB, if your gonna hide behind a door and use nothing but concealment to keep you alive when the enemy figure out your position your gonna get it up close. But that wasn't really that much of a problem, just miniture cheat calling. Notice that all day from him, he'd come up to yellows and say "who was it who hosed down my hand, that really hurt mate don't you think that was a bit overkill" like he was trying to make people feel bad about shooting the other side. Anyway annoying but not really that big a deal on its own.
What was a big deal is that him and the group he was in consistantly weren't taking 50/50 and to add insult to injury, at some points i was clearly shooting them on semi at fairly close range and about half a second of shots would be hitting them before they'd turn and shoot you, which is fair enough if they then raise there hands themselves because sometimes it takes you a second or two to react to the fact that your been hit and if you spin and shoot on instint thats one thing.
But the guy then just seemed to decide that since i was hit and going out he must still be alive despite the fact i started shooting him first.
I'll admit in this situation in the shotgun and pistol game Van was next to him and said he wasn't sure i'd hit him which with the shotgun i'm more than ready to admit is a possiblity. However most of the situations i'm talking about were with the l85 were i was seeing a steady stream of bbs hitting him.
Next badsportsman ship and this wasn't just isolated to him although he was the main guy i noticed was when we did the rebel game and as we were gathering prisoners in that room he just wondered in and just shot everyone with pistols. Basically fair enough we clearly hadn't got our act together there as someone should of covered him straight away. But we were trying to deal with the people we got an them saying that we couldn't disarm them. It just struck me as very much whats the point of what he did other than to claim he got another "3 kills". From the banter i picked up from the reds they thought it was great fun been able to "walk right up to them and shoot them point blank".
When we got the turn around and got to be rebels they basically shot up spunky who was completely unarmed and complying with them at the time.
Then we had the same group doing stuff like closing doors all the way and shooting just out of the crack, and throwing pyros on floor 4. That inentire group were just posion on what should have been a really good day.
By the back end of the floor clearing game i was so deyhdrated and hacked off with these guys that i first lost my temper and then just lost interested.
Things that can actually be done by the site since you can't really ever do anything against that kinda cheating personality of player:
Full safety brief even for regulars, it never hurts to remind everyone of all the rules and it gives less excues later on.
More marshals and a bit more proactiveness and undercover player marshals. Working together with the high vis marshals undercover marshals can inform on their own side as well as the other in blantent cases. That way there isn't a case of as soon a marshal shows up suddenly everyone is behaving themselves. Basically you need at least one jamie kinda marshal, scary bastard bad cop. You have alot of really good cop marshals who are excellent when it comes to calming people down and dealing with small confusion. Sure you can get more advice on that from jamie though.
Anyway, lets get off the negative now and on to the positive.
Loved the new lay out of the site, more structures in the rooms and cover breaking up the big ones. You guys have definatly been working on that site Roth tells me it was their a fortnight ago but i swear i didn't notice it then!
The warm up game was good, the free for all was a fun idea but maybe needed to be shorter, maybe half an hour. Spunky and my gentlemens agreement ending pretty much before i knew the game had started :-p
Another good point is that you said you were gonna bring in numbered arm bands, thats gonna be good for keeping track of things, guess you could tally how many different people report the same number.
Experimenting with the role play game, was a good idea, needed a bit of refining and the right players but was quite cool idea.
Pistols and shotguns with a very small force of people (4) with AEGs was a good idea for a game.
Safe room and facilities were top notch definately a good room for games with small amounts of people.
Good banter with everyone and haven't given up on listening to players whinin- I mean feedback yet. Its always refreshing to know the site owner is actually listening and considering your ideas.
Shooting range as ever was cool.
Finding out the green glow stick idea was pointless so no need to waste anymore money on them.
Walking up to one of the "brit soldiers" with a six barrel as a rebel, standing in front of him, fumbling with the trigger going "oh fuck how does this work" with him just staring blanky back at me before it finally going off to the suprise of both of us, poor Rudie.
RAVING IN THE DISCOTECK
Hopefully the negative stuff hasn't bummed you out too much though.
Just need to get ontop of the sportsman ship and you'll be back on track.
Any thoughts from the other two ragtags their on what i've just said btw?
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| Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:42 am |
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van650
Joined: 27 Oct 2009 Posts: 18
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All fair points Stray, and to be honest there were no complaints from the other team about the yellows not taking hits, but more than a few on the yellows reporting the reds.
I need to get the marshals to get a grip on these players who cheat, but I think some are a bit to nice as you have said.
We had enough marshals on the floors this week but they need to be a bit tougher on foul play.
There is a fair bit more built up stuff than 2 weeks ago! and will be more again for the next game!
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| Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:29 pm |
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Stray
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Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 1844 Location: Leeds |
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Just to clarify it was this dude and his group..

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| Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:11 pm |
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Joshua Rose
King of M4s

Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 439 Location: Loxley, Sheffield |
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Just to clarify it was this dude and his group.. |
Aww man, that is not even remotely the same camo...
...back to your reference books...

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| Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:24 pm |
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Stray
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Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 1844 Location: Leeds |
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You think thats bad, i was telling them it was "The guy in multicam the green multicam stuff" DOH!
He knew who i meant though.
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| Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:31 pm |
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Joshua Rose
King of M4s

Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 439 Location: Loxley, Sheffield |
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You think thats bad, i was telling them it was "The guy in multicam the green multicam stuff" DOH!
He knew who i meant though. |
You make me sad.
Anyway, having quickly recovered from my temporary malaise, please read, and learn the entirity of the following websites:
http://www.kamouflage.net/country/00181.php?page=1
http://camo.henrikc.dk/
You will be tested! 
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| Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:44 pm |
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Jay7
Mercenary and stealth expert

Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 1144 Location: Liversedge |
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Looks like ACM marpat.
Thats the same guy as last time,I recognize the face mask.
Stray thanks for the name checks,I agree the marshalling at Brit tac needs firming up but it won't be me who's doing it.Marshalling pretty much stopped me getting games in last time so I'm not too fussed about doing it again.
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| Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:42 am |
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Stray
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Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 1844 Location: Leeds |
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perhaps some sorta brief or training you could do with them rather than sssomething sustained? Teach a man to fish and all that?
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| Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:51 am |
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Roth
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Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 984 Location: Yorkshire |
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Looks like ACM marpat.
Thats the same guy as last time,I recognize the face mask.
Stray thanks for the name checks,I agree the marshalling at Brit tac needs firming up but it won't be me who's doing it.Marshalling pretty much stopped me getting games in last time so I'm not too fussed about doing it again. |
That and you scare the shit out of the under 16 players.
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| Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:21 am |
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van650
Joined: 27 Oct 2009 Posts: 18
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Thanks for offering Jays services guy's but I do want some players to return! LoL (Only joking J, your input is more than welcome)
I have already had a long chat with steve about this and the numbered arm bands will be in use for the next game and a sin bin or leave site rule enforced. Not going to have a few people spoil the site!
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| Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:01 pm |
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Stray
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Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 1844 Location: Leeds |
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Maybe some sorta role play training day for them, sounds corney but works to a certain extent at taking the edge off. We use it at tesco all the time. You have one of the others on the course been the most awkward customer they can pretend to be and you have to deal with em as if it was real. Then the course runner feedsback on it.
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